Is self-reflexive purposeful action only a stage in the realisation of intelligence of does it necessitate the presence of awareness, of consciousness? The distinction between mind and consciousness sees to be justified by the fact that we can imagine forms of mind, say purposive response to environment, entirely without consciousness. Does it work the other way around? Can we imagine forms of consciousness free of involvement with mind? Panpsychism seems to suggest that this is so. Or we can imagine consciousness associated with different kinds of mind and bringing forth very different kinds of ... something analogous to what 'subjective experience' is for us. That in our experience for which consciousness is indispensable may have nothing to do with problem-solving, or with making accumulations of knowledge coherent, but purely with moral and/or aesthetic experience.