What of the subject of experience is experienced? If you say that it is only thoughts and images from which the experiencer is deduced by analogy, then this doesn't serve because these are objectified meanings and hence not actually experienced but projected in an interminable secondary web of deferred references. If you say it is raw feelings in the point-present moment, that might be a little better, except that such feelings are defined in contrast to thoughts and images, or indeed it is enough to say that they are defined. People seek out experiences where the inveterately accompanying reflections in thought and image are more or less violently suppressed, and these are regarded as pleasurable or even ecstatic, although few can say with any accuracy what these raw feelings are 'like' even if they are much talked about and represented in art - what is talked about is the occasion of the experience and not the experience itself. Allow that these are experiences of the experiencer, or as close as we ordinarily get to them, they are still impure by virtue of that very need to suppress everyday mind. Can the two be brought together? To experience ordinary reality as if it were a continuous orgasm?